We Should Be Against the Freedom of Religion

I have thought about this for a while, and this seems to be the conclusion we must come to if we are a Christian who is opposed to gay marriage: “We should be against the Freedom of Religion.”

When I ask Christians why they are against gay marriage, the reason most often cited is “because I believe it’s sinful. Why would I advocate for something I find wrong?”

This logic seems to be based on this principle:

“As a Christian, it is wrong to advocate for the government to allow for something I find sinful.”

Okay, so let’s take that principle and apply it to the freedom of religion.

Isn’t that advocating for the government to allow other people to worship other gods?

And isn’t that practice also sinful, what the Bible calls idolatry?

In fact, while homosexuality is a topic that comes up in the Bible a handful of times, idolatry is mentioned thousands of times, univocally pronouncing the worship of other gods a sin, a great wrongdoing to the one true God.

So, if your reason for being against gay marriage is that you do not want to government to allow others to practice something you find sinful, then it stands to reason that you should also be against the freedom of religion in our country.

If you are unwilling to follow your own logic then we might rightly call that mental inconsistency at best, hypocrisy at worst, but in any case, do not expect me to be convinced by it.


11 responses to “We Should Be Against the Freedom of Religion

  1. I just want to see if I have this right. To your understanding of the freedom of religion, it would be okay to worship gods and goddesses using rape on the fertility altars and the burning of children for sacrifice to the…earthquake, thunder, or volcano god, or whatever else a human decides will be their religion, stealing cars, wives, children, doing whatever a person can without any thought of what one should do for self and the common good. We have free-will, that is true, but Is it really a responsible vision of freedom to assume that freedom of religion means people should be able to do whatever they want to whomever they want, disregarding all other freedoms, consequences, other people, too? What really does freedom mean anyway?

    • I think perhaps you misunderstand the point of my post. I am not advocating any view of freedom, that of religion or otherwise. I think your question, “What is freedom mean anyway?” is a very important one that doesn’t have a simple answer.

      My point was simply to say that if you are against the government allowing gay people to get married because you believe gay sex is sinful then it seems to follow that you should also be against the government allowing people to practice other religions than Christianity because you believe idolatry is sinful.

      That is to say, my point is about logic, not to define freedom nor to advocate for any notion of it.

      • I did misunderstand because, I think–take a stab at it, idolatry is a term used differently, depending on the denomination. Where some see idolatry, other do not. Some Christians do not see other religions as living in idolatry, per se. Many are manifestations of the same longing for God, expressed. For instance, we could talk about the big three monotheistic traditions, which cover a large portion of the planet’s population. It could be argued that they all resist idolatry. Then we could get to the individual. Any person who does the work of love could be said to be resisting idolatry. So, it would be hard to say at this point which religion is the idolatrous one, but it depends upon how idolatry is defined, and for that matter, love. Idolatry to many Christians manifests itself in rape, pillaging, plunder, and infant sacrifice, all things that defy freedom and love. To get to the nitty-gritty, we all fall into idolatry when we put something ahead of God (love). But, any religion that is at least trying to aim toward freedom from the worst sorts of idols would, in my way of thinking, be able to exist in a place that encourages freedom, but any religion that heads towards tyranny, hostility, objectification of others, injustice, and slavery would find it difficult to be around those who work for freedom–it might make people defensive. So perhaps the qualifier ought to be, freedom of religion for those religions that desire to work for freedom. But there we go again: freedom. What is it for, JB? Why do people desire that so much? Why do people feel threatened when it seems like freedoms are taken away? Who is to say what freedom means and how that should look? These are things I will be thinking over for the next few days, especially since I have recently been in a forum at the university where I was not allowed to speak because I speak with examples from religion. To me, that means we are already losing our freedom of religion if we can no longer speak of religion in a public place, but I know it’s not coming from my religion or the religion of others to work against freedom.
        I really enjoyed this discussion. It was very thought provoking. God bless!

  2. 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—

    10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

    11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

    12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

    13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

    1 Corinthians 5:9-13
    You are right, Jared. If we wish to be free to worship, others are free to sin. Our only responsibility is to hold out the Word of Truth in love.

  3. I read the amendments similarly…

    -Freedom of religion: the freedom to worship false gods
    -Freedom of speech: the freedom to lie
    -Freedom of press: the freedom to ‘publish’ lies
    -Freedom of privacy: the freedom to have elicit affairs

    (and so on and so forth)

    • I’m not sure I understand your question. I know that “But doesn’t that lead to things like accepting polygamy” are often responses to arguments in favor of gay marriage, but I’m having a hard time seeing how it ties into the logic of this argument since I am not putting forth any positive argument for gay marriage, specifically. Can you expand on what you’re thinking a bit?

      • Yeah sorry, I knew what I was thinking but how could you if I didn’t state it clearly? First, I enjoyed your article (as I usually do) and loved the thought-provoking questions you asked. I guess my broader question to you would be how can Christians respond?

        My polygamy question came from the thought that if same-sex unions were recognized, why couldn’t polygamous unions be recognized? Couldn’t that fall under the umbrella of freedom of religion? Maybe it doesn’t. I’m just a student asking questions.

  4. Jared,
    It’s all an interesting discussion. I see the GLBT revolution occurring in our country somewhat troublesome, but I agree with you that it’s not for Christians to dictate how nonbelievers live their lives. It does nothing but complicate our witness to them.
    On the other hand, is the problem that comes up within the body of Christ about allowing GLBT marriage. As society is becoming more and more in favor of these lifestyles, so also are many church denominations struggling with what to do when society has changed and now people who have been openly accepted as GLBT in the world enter the church, and want to be married, or want the church to accept the marriages they’ve formed with a same-sex partner. It doesn’t stay in the real of “the world” very long – as things happen in the world, they very quickly end up on door to the church. And that’s what Christians are really having to grapple with.

  5. I really contemplate the reasons why you named this specific article, “We Should Be Against the Freedom of Religion | Jared
    Byas”. In any event . I really appreciated the post!Regards,

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